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RACING RULES of SAILING


 

APPEAL No.

200910

APPEAL TO

YACHTING NSW

APPEAL BY

BIG KAHOONA

 

 

THE PROTEST

NESSIE TOO v BIG KAHOONA

 

NESSIE TOO and BIG KAHOONA were sailing upwind offshore in strong winds (approx 20 knots). NESSIE TOO on port tack approached BIG KAHOONA on starboard. NESSIE TOO tacked to leeward of BIG KAHOONA. BIG KAHOONA tacked away soon after. There was a collision during the tack. NESSIE TOO protested BIG KAHOONA.

The Protest Committee found the following facts: 

  1. Protest is valid.
  2. Nessie Too on Port tack approached Big Kahoona on Starboard tack.
  3. Nessie Too completed a tack onto starboard
  4. Both boats sailed on starboard tack for at least 30 sec with initially 1.5m – 2m separation which subsequently closed.
  5. Big Kahoona luffed to tack. Contact occurred between Big Kahoona's mainsail and Nessie Too's rigging

PROTEST DECISION

The Protest Committee disqualified BIG KAHOONA for failing to keep clear as required by Rule 11.

APPEAL SUMMARY

BIG KAHOONA appealed on two grounds:

 1.     That the tack by NESSIE TOO was too close and that the Protest Committee misinterpreted or failed to consider rule 15 and rule 16.1

2.     That NESSIE TOO did not display an appropriate protest flag and that the Protest Committee has misinterpreted Rule 61.1(a).

APPEAL DECISION

GROUNDS 1

The Protest Committee has not misinterpreted rule 15 or rule 16.1. The appeal is denied on these grounds. 

APPEAL REASONS

GROUNDS 1

While NESSIE TOO was tacking and until she completed her tack she was bound by rule 13 to keep clear. 

Once NESSIE TOO’s tack had completed, rule 13 ceased to apply and BIG KAHOONA becomes bound by rule 11, and, NESSIE TOO by rule 15, which embodies the principle in the rules that when the right of way suddenly shifts from one boat to another, the boat with the newly acquired right of way must give the other boat space and time for response and thus a fair opportunity to keep clear.

NESSIE TOO’s obligation under rule 15 is not a continuing one; it protects BIG KAHOONA only temporarily, and only if she responds promptly after the overlap begins.

Rule 11 requires BIG KAHOONA to keep clear and, if this requires her to luff, she must do so promptly.

There was no attempt by BIG KAHOONA to luff or otherwise alter course for a period of 30 seconds after NESSIE TOO’s tack. Consequently BIG KAHOONA has lost her protection under rule 15 and is now bound by rule 11, as windward boat, to keep clear of NESSIE TOO.

 In order for NESSIE TOO to infringe rule 16.1 she must:

(a)     be the right of way boat; and,

(b)     alter course preventing the other boat from keeping clear.

There were no facts found that NESSIE TOO altered course.

The Protest Committee has not misinterpreted rule 15 or rule 16.1. 

APPEAL DECISION

GROUNDS 2

The protest committee has not misinterpreted rule 61.1. The appeal is denied on these grounds.  

APPEAL REASONS

GROUNDS 2

The Protest Committee found as fact 1 “The protest is valid”. This is a decision, as required by rule 63.5 and not a fact.

Notwithstanding, both boats, according to their rejoinders to this Appeal, admit hailing ‘Protest’ and, hearing each other’s hail of ‘Protest’. While there is no requirement that a protest flag be flown on any particular part of a boat there is a requirement that the flag be displayed conspicuously. Flying the protest flag on a shroud or side stay meets this requirement. Note that there is no requirement that the other boat must see the flag, only that it is displayed.

The intent of Rule 61.1 is to ensure that every boat involved in an incident is aware that they are being protested and can, if they choose, take advantage of an alternative penalty if one is available. Further, that should they choose not to take an alternative penalty that they are sufficiently informed that they are being protested and they have been provided reasonable opportunity to prepare their arguments.

It is clear from the facts and the rejoinders that both boats were aware that an incident had occurred and that there was a potential protest from each boat.

The Appeals Committee is reluctant to uphold an appeal based on rule 61.1 when it is clear that both parties were informed and had opportunity to take advantage of an alternative penalty if one applied.

The appeal, therefore, is denied. 

CONFIRMED BY

JENNY STURROCK

YACHTING NEW SOUTH WALES

 12th February 2010  

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17/11/09 – 8:00pm @ RMYC Cronulla

Harbour Race 31/10/09

Click here for Protest form.

 

Protestor: Nessie Too (Tom Palmer)

Protestee: Big Kahoona (Steve McManus)

 

Facts Found:

  1. Protest is valid.

  2. Nessie Too on Port tack approached Big Kahoona on Starboard tack.

  3. Nessie Too completed a tack onto starboard

  4. Both boats sailed on starboard tack for at least 30 sec with initially 1.5m – 2m separation which subsequently closed.

  5. Big Kahoona luffed to tack. Contact occurred between Big Kahoona's mainsail and Nessie Too's rigging.

 

Conclusion and Applicable Rules:

 

Big Kahoona was overlapped to windward of Nessie Too and was therefore subject to RRS 11. Big Kahoona was given an opportunity to keep clear however chose not to do so. Once the separation between boats reduced, any alteration of course by either boat would have resulted in contact, hence breaking the definition of “keep clear”.

 

Decision:

Big Kahoona is to be scored DSQ in the race on 31/10/09.

Protest Committee:

Andrew Baglin

Bruce Swain

Scott Toolin


9. Protest Hearing17th November 2009 - Slipstream, L'attitude and Psycho II

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8. Race 10 Short Haul FAD 15 2007.

Protest Hearing = Blew Away v Big Kahoona

Hearing at Cronulla Sailing Club on Thursday 15th February, 2007

Event RMYC-PH, CSC Combined Offshore Race 3rd February 2007 

Blew Away represented by Paul Kelly

Big Kahoona represented by Steve McManus

 Facts Found

 

1                 Protest is valid

2                 L’attitude, Big Kahoona and Blew Away were all on Starboard tack with Blew Away to windward.

3                 Blew Away tacked believing she heard a hail for water.

4                 L’attitude and Big Kahoona continued on Starboard tack.

5                 Blew Away hailed protest.

 

Conclusion

 

No hail for room was made

 

Decision

 

Protest dismissed

 

Protest Committee

Andrew Baglin - Chairman

Mark Brady

Michael Wolf


 

7. Results Race 5 (Port Hacking to Port Jackson) subject to protest.

Shaya Moya vs. Sea Hawk
Shaya Moya vs. Stampede

After initially hearing evidence concerning the display of a suitable flag, the notification to the protested boats and the payment of the protest fees, the protest committee accepted the validity of the protests which were then heard together. It emerged from evidence given during the hearing that the flag was not displayed at the first reasonable opportunity as required by Rule 61.1(a) and as indicated on the protest forms. The protest was then declared invalid and the hearing was closed.

Ross Moller - Secretary Sailing Committee Cronulla SC


6. Protest Kahoona v Avanti - Race 3 Short Haul Series October 2005  02/11/05

Facts Found:

  1. Protest is Valid.
  2. Both boats were on Starboard gybe with Kahoona 40m to leeward of Avanti.
  3. Avanti gybed onto Port, and hailed “Out of Control”.
  4. Kahoona hailed “Starboard”.
  5. Avanti luffed on Port tack.
  6. Kahoona altered course and gybed onto Port in an attempt to avoid a collision.
  7. Collision occurred between the end of Kahoonas boom and the port rear quarter of Avanti causing damage to the top life line and pushpit of Avanti and the spinnaker of Kahoona.

Conclusion:

 Avanti as port tack boat failed to keep clear of Kahoona, a starboard tack boat, as required by RRS 10. As contact occurred both boats broke RRS 14, however Kahoona, being a right of way boat that did alter course to avoid the collision cannot be penalised under this rule.

 Decision:

 Avanti is to be scored DSQ in Short Haul 3, October 22nd 2005, under RRS 10 and RRS 14. Kahoonas request for redress under RRS 62.1 is denied as no significant worsening of her position in the race occurred, hence the criteria for RRS 62.1 are not met.

Protestor: Steve McManus

Protestee: Bruce McKay

Event: Short Haul 3 - 22nd Oct 2005

Protest Heard: 7:30pm 2nd November @ RMYC

Protest Committee: Andrew Baglin (NU, SJ, Chairman), Scott Toolin, Ross Moller


5. Request for Redress in Race SH 10, 19/02/2005.

Boats Seeking Redress in standing by dis-masted Sirocco: The Syndicate (JG, GP), Sail La Vie (KW), Splinter (KS)
Hearing Committee: Scott Toolin, Michael Wolf, Kevin Farrell
Meeting was held on the 23/02/2005
Request for redress was dismissed as invalid for all boats under RRS 61.2, 61.3 and RMYC Sailing Instruction Rule 23, with no extenuating circumstances.

Hearing Committee to make recommendations in relation to Race Declaration and Protest procedures and Race Committee functions at the next Sailing Division Committee Meeting to be held on the 21/03/2005.
 

4. Protest #1 Race SH 6, 20/11/2004.

Sail La Vie vs Dimanic (CSC)
Was heard in mediation by Scott Toolin on the 23/11/2004
Sail La Vie claimed that Dimanic broke RMYC Sailing Instruction 15(a) in rounding the Committee boat on station inside the two boat length exclusion zone. On discussion between skippers Sail La Vie withdrew their protest.

Mediator's recommendation is to suggest that both RMYC and CSC have this clause written into their Sailing Instructions.


3. Primal Farr Protesting Cooee II Race 3, 14/06/03, Course 9, Bate Bay Passage.
Protest: Friday 20th June 2003 1730Hrs.
Heard by Patrick Bennett, Warren Buchan and Ross Moller.
The protest was valid and the hearing proceeded.
· On a work, Cooee II, on port, failed to give way to Primal Farr, on starboard.
· Primal Farr had to tack to avoid a collision.
· Cooee II failed to exonerate herself.
· Therefore; Cooee II has been disqualified for breaking Section A, Rule 10.
Witnesses present: Stuart Brunton, John Barter, Jamie Hocking and Leanne.
Observers: Anthony Graham.

2004/2005 Protest\Redress Hearings

2. Protest Result Port Jackson - Port Hacking 16/02/2003 Emphasis V Possible Dream

-Possible Dream has withdrawn and will receive a DNF for the race.

-No protest hearing was held.


1. Result of Protest Kahoona (RMYC-PH) Vs Short Measure (CSC) 9/11/02 Race No. 4

Short Measure being the windward vessel failed to give way at the start buoy, to Kahoona, the leeward vessel.

Short Measure DSQ'd themselves shortly after the race. No protest hearing held.

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